July 24, 2001
George,
This might be good to post under "Home Build Projects" under the
message board for members and other interested parties. I just received word
that the motors are now available. They ran out in '98. I don't recommend
building one unless you have skill and patience. You'll need it! It definitely
is more cost effective to buy one, especially when one considers the amount of
time it takes to build one. Yet, I know of no better way to learn wind
generation principles and this unit outperforms many low cost units, especially
in low to moderate wind speeds. Caution: Overspeed can damage or destroy the
turbine if you don't include an automatic folding rudder. And, it is possible to
demagnetize and destroy a generator (motor in this case) if it is driven too
hard! I would regulate this for a maximum of 300 Watts since it is rated at 1/3
hp. This is accomplished by setting the rudder to fold to 90 degrees at 310
Watts (The wind speed at which this is accomplished will vary with the turbine
design). A 30 Amp fuse for 12 Volt operation or a 15 Amp fuse for 24 Volt
operation will help serve as a safety (mounted at the bottom of the pole or
tower where one can get to it).
Sat, 30 Aug 1997 10:42:55 -0700
Tom W. Rentz (econergy@whidbey.net)
I promised to provide information on the low rpm
DC motor once it had arrived. It was purchased from the Surplus Center, 10151
W. "O" St., PO Box 82209, Lincoln NE, 68509, 1.800.488.3407 Not sure
how many they have in stock??
>From my previous posting:
They have an interesting 194 rpm 24 vdc, 13 amps, motor, item #10-1519
($49.95) that weighs in at 40 lbs. Since it is a permanent magnet design it
may be suitable for a moderate output direct propeller design system (about
300 watts)
The heavy box arrived (Approx. 40 lbs). I opened
it immediately and the first thing I checked was the torque required to turn
the shaft (at least by hand rotation). It was stiff.. I thought perhaps it had
a built-in unanticipated gearbox. But alas, I removed the brush cover and
confirmed that the main drive shaft speed matches the rotational speed of the
main shaft. The main component of drag is the permanent magnet
"notch" that is typical for permanent magnet motors. I am impressed
with the heavy duty construction, heavy duty wiring, and the adaptability for
weather-tight sealing. It likely was intended for indoor use rather than
outdoor, so some modifications should help for outdoor use. A high quality
rust preventing enamel or epoxy paint should help a lot. A sealer such as
silicon around the removable brush cover and end covers should help keep
moisture out. Be sure to reseal this if you later remove the cover to work on
the brushes, etc. A good fitting but not too tight "O" ring or
rubber washer, which is lubricated at the shaft only and secured with silicone
should help prevent moisture from entering the shaft bearing. I would advise
painting the drive shaft as well to prevent rust.
It looks like it is suitable for home
experimenters as it definitely performs as a 194 rpm motor at 24 volts. It
will require a turbine with substantial starting torque to get the shaft
started, due to the strong "notch" effect, and the 4 brushes, which
do create a certain amount of drag, as well. Once it starts, the notch effect
is no problem for efficiency, since the magnets repel as well as attract
during rotation. This may be a good unit for experimenters since its cost is
minimal and it offers much potential for results. It will require a 40-50 Amp.
blocking diode to prevent the battery bank from discharging when wind speeds
are low.
My first estimations are that it will perform best
(with higher output) on a 24 volt system with a turbine as described below. It
has a continuous duty rating and heavy windings. It may be possible to run it
at up to 300 or 350 rpm to get more output since it is such a heavy duty unit,
especially if one outfits the smooth outer casing with some cooling fins by
removing the paint and using industrial grade epoxy to fasten them in-line
with the shaft (then refinish as per previous paragraph). Remember that it has
to begin charging at about 200 rpm for a 24 volt system, so the turbine must
be capable of higher speeds. If you use it on a 12 volt system, it will
begin to charge at about 100 rpm, but it will have a much lower output.
However, the unit is heavy enough that it may surprise us.
Perhaps a light weight but strong wood turbine,
hand laminated with water proof glue and carved from Sitka Spruce or other
clear/strong wood would make a good experimental turbine (2 ea. 2" X
8" clear per blade), it will require a lot of carving and a lot of wood
needs to be removed to get an approximate 45 degree pitch from the root of the
blades with a gradual taper to 10 or 12 degrees at the tips). I have carved
them using a draw knife (used to debark logs). I have successfully made light
weight blades from Redwood, but I advise using fiberglass and cloth for extra
strength. The turbine should have 3 or 4 blades, with a strong pitch
within about a 2 to 3 foot radius of the shaft, to assist in starting and
overcoming the notch effect. This should gradually taper to about 10 to
12 degrees at the tip -- I would estimate a turbine of about 7.5 feet in
diameter for a 3 or 4 blade unit. Blade tips should be thin and no wider than
about 3-4 inches to effect good tip speed and adequate rpm. (Suggest
purchasing or checking out from the library some of Hugh Piggot's books, David
Egglestons if you can really get into technical jargon, or Michael
Hackleman's. These all have a great deal of valuable information).
Sealing the wood blades with an epoxy paint is a good idea since moisture can
eventually load up in the blades and cause an out of balance condition. The
turbine can be statically balanced by hanging it from the center with a rope
positioned exactly on center. Weights can be added to the lighter blades until
the unit sits level. When doing this, try to determine the center of gravity
for the heavier blades by balancing them on a knife blade locked into a vise.
This will give you an idea as to where to place the weights on the lighter
blades, trying to match the weight distribution of the heavier blades.
I make no claims as to its performance, just that
for those who like to experiment, this one might be a good one to work with,
since low rpm generators are quite difficult to come by unless you are willing
to spend big bucks -- even then, they are hard to find. (Please note that
today's commercially available wind generators do not need brushes, they use
rotating magnets, not a rotating armature. The brushes will need replacing
eventually, and the armature will need to be surfaced.) These operate and are
maintained a bit like the generators of the automobile pre-alternator era.
Tom Rentz, Sun/Wind Concepts
Further notes:
You can make successful wind generators with
higher speed alternators up to several thousand rpm. However, the gearing up
required consumes power, therefore, the turbine must be quite large to
compensate. This all increases the price per watt of output. It is necessary
for large turbines, but smaller turbines are more cost effective if they can
be direct drive. In 1998 we made 2 experimental units with epoxy and fine fiberglass
cloth coated styrofoam. The styrofoam was easy to cut, shape and form. These
can be shaped in sections of 4 to 6 inches in length. The epoxy was a bit
messy to work with but made effective turbine blades. The smoother the finish,
the higher the attainable speed. They are very light and required little
balancing. We used 3 foot pieces of 1" EMT conduit to mount the blades to
the hub, utilizing 1" I.D. U bolts to connect them to the hub. This
allows the turbine blades to be adjusted for maximum starting torque and most
effective operating speeds. Hubs can be metal or even heavy plywood. The hub I
built used two 3/4" X 1 foot diameter discs, laminated with waterproof
wood glue and screwed together (creating a 1 1/2" thick hub). A 6"
heavy-duty pulley with the correct shaft size served as an adequate mount for
the hub and also provided a means to secure the turbine to the motor shaft.
A 1" hole was drilled in each segment of the styrofoam as it was
laminated and carved. We used 'water based' pressurized can foam to
laminate and glue the sections together and to securely connect each piece to
the 1" conduit. (Note that liquid fiberglass will chemically melt
styrofoam.. this is why epoxy is a good choice for this blade). A Trace C40
can be used as a battery shunt regulator with a diversion load to keep the
battery bank from overcharging.